He was said to have gotten stronger than he was on Namek. From the time he showed up during the Frieza Saga, he has been the most feared and hated villain in the entire franchise. Saying that he didn't power up because it wasn't noted is using erroneous reasoning. king of Jobbers gets chopped in half by death saucers. While Ize comes across as a very basic version of Frieza and lacks much of the malicious personality that made Frieza memorable, Ize was even stronger than his father. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a … It's known that Dabura was as strong as Cell, and Dabura was done in by Fat Buu, who was weaker then Grey Buu. I kinda remember a scan of him saying he didnt need Cold's help since he increased his power he could kll Goku himself and wanting to show off his new power. Join Community. Mecha Frieza is stated to be stronger than he was on Namek, but it’s never stated how much stronger. Weaker: Android 17. Mecha Frieza is like the new and improved version of original Frieza, so I give it to him plus Frieza at 100% has shown not so good durability and has stamina issues. Yeah, I can't really see why Frieza would hold back after finding out that Trunks was an SSJ. Also there's that line with Gohan saying that Frieza could get much stronger. Kind of like how when fighting Raditz Goku's power level jumped up when he used his kamehameha. Trunk, had become a Super Saiyan at least one other time before facing Frieza, so there was a little time before then, meaning he could’ve gotten a little stronger. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a Super Saiyan. Then he used his supernova which Trunks was able to easily push back, but had to dodge it when it exploded. Cooler has one more transformation than Frieza.Yes due to Cooler passing to the next tranformation after which Frieza got. Mecha Frieza constantly mentions that he's new, improved, and stronger than before. He shot one ki blast, it did nothing. Everyone <<< King cold =< Mecha << his max power on namek. Mecha Freeza, he was implied to be slightly stronger than his former self and he will not start losing power. He wouldn't confront Goku, knowing how strong his Super Saiyan form is, without powering up. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. @thedarkpaladin: I wish they made it more clear. I didn't think Mecha wasn't stronger than 100%, just that they'd fight long enough till 100% loses enough power. Base Trunks' power down wasn't noted? It just wouldn't be logical. Does that mean we know base Trunks didn't power down? He shot another one that pushed Trunks back. Also, OP limited him to that power anyways. How strong is Metal Cooler actually? So someone's personality can't change over time? @apex_pretador: Very nice. Also, how is freeza supposed to know that he "powered up"? Death Ball is the attack he used to destroy Namek. While his body was damaged in the aftermath of Planet Namek's destruction, Frieza is brought back from the brink of death as a cyborg. From the time he showed up during the Frieza Saga, he has been the most feared and hated villain in the entire franchise. SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Mecha Frieza Discussion in 'Manga/Anime Battledome' started by Geralt of Rivia, Dec 16, 2011. The death ball is either black or read, usually with electricity around it. Well, the problem is that it’s difficult to really ascertain how strong Golden Frieza is, however, he is very powerful. We all know how good the fight between freeza 100% and goku was. We all know what the Viz Manga says and it's generally regarded as the Irrelevant power scailing is irrelevant. Still, there is no way to know for sure if that is the case or not. Do you know the Answer Please Sign-in Or register in order Answer this question? @thedarkpaladin: So do you think mecha Frieza as using his full power on Trunks? So for a all we know, he Android 17 was the biggest surprise of Dragon Ball Super. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a Super Saiyan. SSJ2 Gohan couldn't beat Majin Buu, but could beat Cell. Yeah, but it's unknown whether or not Mecha Frieza can use his buff form at that point. t0sh. TheMikado I Live Here Posts: 4884 Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:28 pm. He normally has four forms, though he has an additional Mecha form, a Golden Form, and also a few additional video game exclusive forms. Why is the DeathClaw stronger then the Yao Guai even though Bears are stronger then lizards IRL? Due to the damage that he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. Cooler is stronger than Frieza, thus he is stronger than King Cold. Maybe during his final attack. The US Bureau of Statistics makes extrapolations from known data, but in undeveloped countries, the population numbers are probably ... ... on which form they are in and if you are including the spin off like the movie where cooler creates an army of meta coolers, each of which has the abilities of the original cooler. Considering that Goku's powers have risen exponentially since then and when the Androids arrive on earth, the fighting sequences which depict them just do not have the velocity it had in Frieza Saga. ? ultimately Freeza is lazy. Frieza did mention he had been improved and was stronger as Mecha Frieza. but will he be able to fight him that long? Cyborg frieza wins. To be fare power ups are usually noted in dragon ball, however it is possible he powered up. The reason he didn't blow up earth is because he wanted to fight Goku himself. The point is, we can't be sure how much power he was using when he fired that blast. That's silly logic. @apex_pretador: Very nice. ...r is actually is stronger than Frieza. In Dragon Ball, who is more powerful 100%, Frieza or Mecha frieza? Base trunks powerup was noted, piccolo power down was noted, freeza's henchmen power down (due to death) was noted. "I may be able to take care of him by … Only noted power ups in that arc were from SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku as far as I recall. Thread starter Trollasaur; Start date Aug 8, 2013; 1; 2; Next. It might be a hint that Frieza wasn't using all of his power. Desperate for a genuine challenge, Ize killed his way across the galaxy before learning about the existence of Earth. Gohan mentions Frieza is suppressed and there is never any mention of him powering up, however having him killed off not at full power doesn't make sense story telling wise. Not to mention they're bigger, stronger, faster, and have longer claws than the Yao Guai.... Mg2+(aq) + 2e- = Mg(s) E° = - 2.37V Cl2(g) + 2e- = 2Cl-(aq) E° = + 1.36V... yes. There is really no way to know for sure. "I may be able to take care of him by … While each new villain in the series is far stronger than the next, Frieza is the only one given the opportunity to improve, and given the opportunity, he becomes one of the strongest fighters in the universe. Even if he wasn't using 100% (no real way to know) then subject would be left entirely up to speculation. Goku in his base form in Resurrection F is stronger than Kid Buu so clearly, Frieza with his Golden form is significantly stronger. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . In that case coole... ...r is actually is stronger than Frieza. He is willing to abandon the original plan to wait for Goku and he knows what an SSJ is capable of so there is no reason for him to hold back. If thats not enough for you, Super Buu(Gohan Absorbed), being the strongest buu, could only be defeated by a fusion... ... is a good fight, Broly is powerful. He was at 50% fighting Goku then for one attack he hit Goku with 70% of his power. Neither, as they are not over nine thousand.... ...s stronger than Cell.Proof? Regardless, we don't know for sure how much power Frieza uses when he attacked Trunks. Why where the Androids stronger than Mecha Frieza? His attack might of been full power, but not his body, if you know what I mean. He wouldn't confront Goku, knowing how strong his Super Saiyan form is, without powering up. In some video games, Mecha Frieza can power up to 100%, when he does so his aura begins crackling with red electricity and his body begins glowing with power. frieza died in the begining of the android saga when him and king cold (his dad) go to earth to finish off goku, but the "mysterioust youth" (future trunks) shows up and kills both of them.... How many people are there in the whole world? But which one? Also, was that thing in super too? @nishi99: Mecha Frieza is limited from powering up if he has that ability. You could actually make an argument that golden Frieza is stronger than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. What does that have to do with anything? Frieza's personality seems to be a counter to Goku's lighthearted, charming, kind, and peaceful one, but it is unknown if this was done intentionally. Freeza was just some pieces floating in space for over 1 yr before he was turned into mecha, probably unconscious, and mecha freeza >>> pieces of freeza in space, so he might feel powered up even if he's nowhere near namek arc 100%. Okay so Super Saiyan Goku's power level on Namek was 150,000,0000, while Frieza's was 120,000,000, Goku beats Frieza and he is brought back as Mecha Frieza, who was said to be even stronger than his final form on Namek although we aren't given an exact amount. Gohan mentions Frieza is suppressed and there is never any mention of him powering up, however having him killed off not at full power doesn't make sense story telling wise. I am literally just going to copy-paste my answer from another question (asking to rank 17, Gohan, Frieza, Vegeta, and Goku) here. Also cause, you know, cyborg. He must have powered up at least a good deal when firing that blast at Trunks as he would have no reason to "go easy" after witnessing his transformation. Who wins against Cooler vs Frieza… Also, your comparison of raditz vs Goku's KHH, remember that Kami told goku to not waste his energy by using it in useless movements, so he keeps himself suppressed most of the time, and that's why his power lowered down again after doing KHH. :), @apex_pretador: https://kissanime.to/Anime/Dragon-Ball-Z-Movie-15-Fukkatsu-no-F-Dub/Movie-720p?id=117959. Also whenever Frieza powers up it is shown. Mecha Frieza, mostly since 100% was slowly losing power. Today, two villains from the Dragon Ball Z series, who were supposedly killed, return as mechanized versions of their original selves, are going to battle each other to the Death to see who is the Supreior being. @redhood_jaytodd: When did organic Frieza not show good durability? It's up for interpretation. mind showing any SINGLE power up which wasn't noted? but he never wanted to try. So, you can't prove me wrong, and just call my arguments logical fallacies, when you can't back up anything you say with any evidence and rely on speculations, man, what a solid logic !!! The scans I just posted was Frieza's final attack before being killed. Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. He tanked an explosions that could be seen from space. That's the exact same reason he didn't destroy Namek instantly.... @thedarkpaladin: I agree, there really isn't enough info. I like to think that Piccolo at the time was stronger than Mecha Freeza by a decent margin, but not such a large gap that people who are already stronger than Freeza without absorbing tons of energy still get stomped by Piccolo. While each new villain in the series is far stronger than the next, Frieza is the only one given the opportunity to improve, and given the opportunity, he becomes one of the strongest fighters in the universe. @apex_pretador: Yup, I think so. Top. Also there's that line with Gohan saying that Frieza could get much stronger. Mecha Frieza vs Metal Cooler in Dragon Ball Z is today’s VS battle, featuring the GOLDEN SCOUTER! Geralt of Rivia, Dec 16, 2011. Due to the damage he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. — Frieza talking to Zarbon about exterminating the Saiyan race after King Vegeta's rebellion. it is differant in the anime and the manga but frieza blast that could kill vegita did little to trunks . Freeza's ki and KC's ki is noted when they are about to appear on earth, It is noted that this ki is FAR, FAR superoir to vegeta / piccolo but nothing to 100% freeza level, Vegeta becoming more and more close to bulma - CHECK. but it is heavily implied that whatever power he was vs trunks, it was his max power. However, I personally don't believe he was holding back at this point: I never read the manga that much but in the anime it is clear that Frieza feeling it and got impatient. He thought he killed Trunks with it and then was surprise attacked. 0. Goku was >= freeza at that point, but mecha is fodder to namek SS level. My question is, how the hell was Future Trunks able to defeat him so easily? Never change, Apex. It's left entirely up to speculation. Mecha Frieza Edit. In the anime Frieza seemed to use more of his power. We know what power freeza had at the time of attack, the same he had when landing (unless there is ANY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE against it). I think the most likely scenario is his blast was powered up but he didn't raise his actual power level. Mecha-Frieza Was Stronger than He Was on Namek "Papa, if the two of us fight him together, we're sure to beat him." Especially when they keep using the exact same fallacies over and over again even after being called on it. Full Armor Mecha Frieza appears in the video game Super Dragon Ball Z, this form is a stronger version of Mecha Frieza (called Cyborg Frieza in-game): this form has a rocket launcher mounted on his shoulder, the ammunition for which are stored behind his other shoulder, he has a belt of explosives around his waist, and his tail is upgraded with additional armor and sharp blades. So... the same argument from ignorance you were already called out on then? I think he was stronger than depicted, it's just that Trunks landed a mortal blow by surprise and Frieza had 0 chance to do better. Mecha Frieza was chopped up by a sword, lol. Every single powerup / powerdown was noted from that mini-arc, Almost every single minor detail was noted , especially in battle, everything was noted, BUT the only thing, which was not noted, is a speculation - where you assume without any evidence that freeza was suppressed and powered up to attack trunks, while no one notes, and everyone seems to ignore. (You'd think they'd even take into account the fact that he had likely trained, but I'm willing to let the revelation that they didn't slide.) Can you also differentiate Death Ball from Super Nova? The funny thing is, your own scans on post #24 say otherwise... Frieza stated his cyborg body is stronger than his organic body, I see no reason why we couldn't trust him. In this form he appears as a cyborg version of his true form. Mecha Frieza Edit. Unless Gero figured out a way to get Frieza to transform by eating cyborgs and trying to get to Perfect Frieza, I don’t see a Mecha Frieza being all that much stronger than 16. @apex_pretador: Another piece of evidence organic Frieza is stronger is that Sorbet acted like it was a good thing Frieza was brought back without mechanical parts. Too bad Frieza showed no signs of major personality change whatsoever, so you claiming that he was dumber is based on nothing. @thedarkpaladin: Ya, IMO Frieza did something like what he did to ssj Goku. It should be noted that the Dragon Ball Minus manga shows him blowing up planet Vegeta with a similar blast. As for the power sensing arguement, the Z-warriors don't say that there was a greater power than Frieza, they say there is a power as STRONG as Frieza, making them fairly equal in power. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Geralt of Rivia. @overlordarthas: @sineyaprime: @redhood_jaytodd: Future trunks = Namek goku ONE SHOTTED mecha freeza. Surely either Frieza or Cold was stronger than 150 mil unsuppressed to bother coming back to Earth to re-face Goku. Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). ...That makes absolutely no sense. Prove what wrong, your argument from ignorance? Ize's described as being roughly 100 times stronger than Frieza's Perfect Form. Go. No sense? Time for you to find the name of another logical fallacy because you can't counter me :) :D. So, you can't prove me wrong, and just call my arguments logical fallacies, when you can't back up anything you say with any evidence and rely on speculations, man, what a solid logic !!! He turned out to be … According to Akira Toriyama, Frieza's design is an amalgamation of what he thought monsters looked like in his childhood. Still, there is too much left up to speculation here. It's safe to say that he was stronger than he was on Namek. There isn't any scouter in the world which can measure that power, and it is given that the biggest scouter reading is 2nd form freeza, & even that isn't a 100% sure reading. Mecha-Frieza Was Stronger than He Was on Namek "Papa, if the two of us fight him together, we're sure to beat him." You literally said that Frieza didn't power up because it was never noted... That's what we logical thinkers like to call a logical fallacy. mecha frieza is confirmed in both the manga and dbz kai to be stronger than his 100% form. In this form, he appears as a cyborg version of his true form. @overlordarthas: The super nova is the one that looks like a mini star. Cold quickly kicks the opponent away, followed by Frieza who backflip-kicks him to the ground. It's safe to say that he was stronger than he was on Namek. I usually don't make it a habit of wasting my time arguing with people who don't even seem to realize when they're using informal fallacies. And there is a big difference between a change in personality and a change in intelligence. @alextheboss: My bad. King Cold has been stated to be stronger than both Frieza and Cooler, ... After the short speech Mecha Frieza dashes towards the enemy with his head in the stomach, while King Cold flies up high. mecha frieza rip off of is actually stronger that his 100% form and more on par with the androids trunks fought in the future Mecha Frieza's power level is 14,000,000. freiza power level is stronger frieza vs trunks . The clone of Frieza created by Gero is entirely loyal to it's creator, obeying every order. Mecha Frieza was much stronger than previously, as, at 50% power he believed that he could easily outmatch a Super Saiyan. 0. just sit on his laurels and enjoy what he’d inherited. Mecha Frieza could probably go 100% buff mode. I just don't think Frieza fully powered up. Supernova was only seen in the anime, movies and Bardock special. Gohan says Namek freeza 100% >>> Mecha freeza. But everything in that fight is noted, every minor change in ki. Mecha Frieza is how he was when he attacked Trunks (if he wasn't at full power he can't power up). He is the Only DBZ villian to have 3 movies baised around him, he was born a Super Sayian, and he's insane. 543 Anime Fans. … @apex_pretador: Yup, I think so. it is differant in the anime and the manga but Not saying organic Frieza wins, but I don't see how you got he has worse durability showings than Mecha Frieza. Thus, Grey Buu is stronger... ...t forget they are actually genetically enhanced Jackson's Chameleons from before the war, not just mutants. Mecha Frieza constantly mentions that he's new, improved, and stronger than before. Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). I really don't see any other point in adding that line. I'm almost 100% sure that 23rd TB piccolo is a completely different personality than saiyan arc piccolo - no emotions , no weakness to sacrificing his life for a kid of his enemy & android arc vegeta is WAY cockier than saiyan arc vegeta and namek arc vegeta. 1 of 2 Go to page. In Dragon Ball Heroes there is a version of Golden Frieza called "Rage Golden Frieza" which is an empowered version of Golden Frieza fuelled by Rage which also appears in Super as well. It might be a hint that Frieza wasn't using all of his power. Frieza kicks the horrified opponent again, who tries to get up. Please read post 24.You may change your opinion after that. 100% is slow and he loses energy fast. The Cyborg version of Frieza, or his older brother? Frieza is a lizard-like alien whom some refer to as a changeling, Ice-jin, a Frost Demon, or an Arcosian. @overlordarthas: Frieza never abandoned his plan in the manga. Of course not. Man, this is a non-subbed full movie, and it's not easy to go through a video. I'm pretty sure Trunks would've chopped up organic Frieza the same way. Mechanical Frieza wins. How can Namek saga Frieza be smarter than Mecha Frieza. Kind of like how when fighting Raditz Goku's power level jumped up when he used his kamehameha. Completely illogical? Unless 100% Frieza can finish the fight while he still has the endurance, Mecha all the way. Comment. Frieza, of course, would grow even stronger in Dragon Ball Super , even gaining a new Golden Form that puts him on the same level of power as Goku in Super Saiyan God Form. Even if he lasts that long, he'd be severely damaged. I think the most likely scenario is his blast was powered up but he didn't raise his actual power level. Topic: Future Gohan SSJ vs Mecha Frieza. @thedarkpaladin: I wish they made it more clear. Frieza was probably scared of him, if he knew of his e... Grey Buu is stronger. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I really don't see any other point in adding that line. he knew all along he could become the most powerful being in the universe utterly unrivaled if he bothered to try, and train. Cooler has one more transformation than Frieza.Yes due to Cooler passing to the next tranformation after which Frieza got. So, it didn't happen. That doesn't necessarily qualify as proof either, though. Also it usually takes time for Frieza to fully power up. There is no reason for Frieza to hold back any power after pissing himself at the sight of Trunks' transformation. Geralt of Rivia, Dec 16, 2011 #1. Mecha Frieza is like the new and improved version of original Frieza, so I give it to him plus Frieza at 100% has shown not so good durability and has stamina issues. 24.118.227.213 04:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. That is completely illogical. Determine the cell reaction, the standard cell potential (E0 cell) and the half-cell that acts as the cathode for the voltaic cells composed of the following half-cells. He already knew what an SSJ was capable of and he was clearly frightened after witnessing Trunks transform: Also, Gohan's statement was made before Trunks even showed up. This topic is about the strength of King Cold, Mecha-Frieza, Trunks, and Goku. Also, remember that mecha freeza is nowhere near as smart as namek freeza (He denied blowing up the planet when king cold said so), Lol, what a surprise this is... After using nothing but straw man arguments in our last conversation, you're now using an argument from ignorance fallacy. ;). Mecha Frieza. He has to use the same power he did against Trunks. Future Gohan SSJ vs Mecha Frieza. @jtmac005: 100% Frieza isn't slow, but ya he loses energy fast. Also whenever Frieza powers up it is shown. mecha frieza was a bit stronger then regular freiza but when he fought trunks I doubt that he was at full power since he would of put up a better fight against him umm well they need to fix his voice cuz it sounds like a girl in the english dub freiza's voice is done by a woman . The Frieza clones created by Android 21 are mindless drones, only being aware of how to fight like their template. By Lavell Dec 08, 2019. Though your reasoning for why Frieza was smarter on Namek is complete nonsense. Also, the blast wasn't any notable thing as it is "just" marking the start of the fight. He increased his power for a second for one attack. I didn't think Mecha was much stronger than 100%, just that they'd fight long enough till 100% loses enough power, so I still back him in this fight. [citation needed] According to the Daizenshuu, Frieza was also inspired by Toriyama's second editor, Yū Kondō. I'd give unsuppressed Mecha Frieza a … I seriously doubt Frieza would hold back at that point. Sure, it can. LITERALLY EVERYTHING is noted in that mini-arc. I don't really see why he would either, but the fight happend so fast there is really no way to know. Ehh, I still say Mecha Frieza takes this. Dragon Ball: 5 Moves Stronger Than Frieza's Death Ball (& 5 That Are Weaker) Out of every Dragon Ball villain we've come to known over the years, Frieza is definitely one we wouldn't want to run into alone. Due to the damage he had gained by Super Saiyan Goku, and the destruction of Namek, Frieza was found by his father, King Cold and transformed into Mecha Frieza. Never change. Good for Piccolo and Vegeta. I meant stamina/endurance issues. What do you think if he didn't loose energy. @thedarkpaladin: Ya I agree it wouldn't make sense for Frieza to hold back, but he is cocky and probably thought that a kid like that couldn't be as strong as him or Goku even if he was a ssj. Frieza is spiteful and hate fueled, but he's not stupid. Frieza's Japanese voice actor, Ryūsei Nakao jokingly placed Golden Frieza's power level at “one hundred quintillion” (or 1.2 billion times stronger than the Fourth form). I literally claimed there wasn't enough evidence to be 100% which is very reasonable logic, unlike your own. In the battle with Frieza as well, they move so fast that it's barely noticeable to Krillin who's a human being. Would be better if you just posted the quote. Share Share Tweet Email. And guess what isn't noted - freeza powering up. To be fare power ups are usually noted in dragon ball, however it is possible he powered up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ETV UW 5AwThe best vennominaga deck ever =)... http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Weakened... ...ound 6.5 billion. Messages: 9,370 Likes Received: 0 Trophy Points: 0 Joined: Aug 11, 2007 Reputation: Wasteland 100m This thread is a trap and I'm using it to prove a point later on. All he did was shoot one ki balst. I kinda remember a scan of him saying he didnt need Cold's help since he increased his power he could do it himself. If you don't like being called out on it, dont use fallacious logic. Who's stronger, Super Perfect Cell or Grey Buu? Also, i'm pretty sure your battle power raises automatically when you fire off a Kamehameha, but like you said it's only for a brief instance. Refer to as a cyborg version of Frieza, mostly since 100 % Frieza use. 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